they keep pretending to be my friend, and then i get word that they actually hate me.
they have even slandered and said i not worthy to talk to.
then of course, there are the rumours... needless to say, i am pretty depressed..
I understand how you are feeling. My mother in law has called everyone we know and told them that we were talking against the organization and went apostate. Hubby didn't say anything except something he had found in a WATCHTOWER. Now everyone we know is shunning us and no one else has even bothered to ask us if its true or not.
So hang in there and find some real friends like we are doing that are not as judgemental.
Peace to you and a big hug
i have an aquaintance that likes to say, "once an a hole always an a hole".
i guess you could reason that whatever your religious views were, your core is you are who you are.. did your personality change for better or worse when you left the organization?.
Hubby & I have noticed a big difference. We're more tolerant of people in general. Non-JW's aren't evil and trying to make us sin, there are actually some really nice people out there and we're making some good friends that isn't based on conditional love. They don't care if we go to the meetings or not. Stress level has gone way down.
gregg, we are deeply sorry for your loss.
you will be with us in our thoughts & prayers.
For those of you just joining and do not what happened.
Gregg's ex-wife has passed away.
i haven't got much of a story.
i'm in my late teens, grew up in it, and got out of the society's regime by the skin of my teeth.
nearly go baptized because i firmly did believe it was the "truth" but because of a gut feeling that held me back, that i almost ignored, i didn't sign my blood to big brother.
Welcome! Glad to have you here on the forum with us.
gregg, we are deeply sorry for your loss.
you will be with us in our thoughts & prayers.
Gregg, We are deeply sorry for your loss. You will be with us in our thoughts & prayers
blondie i was reading where you posted information from 1952 onward on how we are to treat disfellowshiped members of our spiritual and physical family.
you posted information from the kms, wt and other sources.
i did a search and can't find it, one of the tidbits of information said that if a brother or sister has contact with the "disfellowshiped member" they should be disfellowshiped too.
Glad we could help. Wish you the best Aof A. It's not easy dealing with the mind set of this cult. If you need anything else let me know.
You can get the WT lib download on this site.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/243812/1/Watchtower-Library-2012-download
remember a while back when the wtbts wanted more money to bring home missionaries?
i have been looking for that thread to no avail.
anyway, each and every kh that adopted that resolution is contributing a good deal of money to the wtbt$ based on the amount of publishers.
http://www.newsday.com/business/printedition/ny-cvtop52369349sep17.story?coll=ny%2Dbusiness%2Dprint
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Revenue: $951 million
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Employees: 3,415
It takes a lot of printing to supply more than 6 million Jehovah's Witnesses with the materials for their ministry. One publication, Watchtower, now has an average print run of 23 million copies twice per month, an increase of 7.5 percent over last year.
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since today is celebrated by christians all over the world as easter sunday.... here is sort of a puzzle to solve--if you are interested in things such as this.. .
we begin with luke 24:46. we have a claim being made about a prophecy.. speaking to his disciples on the night of his alleged resurrection, he said, "thus it is written and thus it was necessary for the christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day.
" that the resurrection of christ on the third day was prophesied in the scriptures was claimed also by the apostle paul in 1 corinthians 15:3-4: "for i delivered to you first of all that which i also received: that christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
Unless those scriptures are in what they call the 'Lost/rejected texts of the bible' ????
blondie i was reading where you posted information from 1952 onward on how we are to treat disfellowshiped members of our spiritual and physical family.
you posted information from the kms, wt and other sources.
i did a search and can't find it, one of the tidbits of information said that if a brother or sister has contact with the "disfellowshiped member" they should be disfellowshiped too.
This might be the one you're looking for: WT 1952 11/15 pg 703-704
Questions
From ReadersIn the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshiped, how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?—P.C.,Ontario,Canada.
We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. “Thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him to death with stones, because he hath sought to draw thee away from Jehovah thy God, . . . And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee.”—Deut. 13:6-11, AS.
Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God’s law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshiped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof.
blondie i was reading where you posted information from 1952 onward on how we are to treat disfellowshiped members of our spiritual and physical family.
you posted information from the kms, wt and other sources.
i did a search and can't find it, one of the tidbits of information said that if a brother or sister has contact with the "disfellowshiped member" they should be disfellowshiped too.
Your welcome. I'm having difficulties with the formatting as you can see above by the small print. But there are a few
WT 70 6/1 pg 351-352
Question?
How should a faithful Christian act toward a relative outside the immediate family circle who has been disfellowshiped?—N.W ns
The next verse emphasizes the seriousness of this: “For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.” (2 John 11) This does not necessarily mean that a Christian who speaks with one who was disfellowshiped for stealing, for example, is himself becoming a thief, though that could easily occur. But by disregarding God’s counsel and talking to that one he is as much as saying that he approves of the thief’s conduct, as if it does not matter.
Thus we have established from the Bible itself the basic position of a faithful Christian toward a disfellowshiped one—have no fellowship at all with him, not even speaking with him. Now what if that expelled person is a relative?
Where the disfellowshiped individual and the faithful Christian are in the same family, living in the same household, such as a man and wife, other Biblical factors come into play. If the wife of a Christian man were disfellowshiped for lying, he still would be married to her; the Bible says that they are joined together as one flesh. (Eph. 5:31) In that case he would still have to care for her as his wife and a member of his household. This would involve talking with her about the daily matters of their life Yet, out of respect for the disfellowshiping decree, which severed their connection as spiritual brother and sister, he definitely would not conduct a Bible study with her or have fellowship on spiritual matters. (For more details, see TheWatchtower of July 15, 1963, pages 444-446.)
., WT 93 10/1 pg 19 pp 15 Regarding them, the psalmist said: “Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you,O Jehovah,and do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you?With a complete hatred I do hate them.They have become to me real enemies.” (Psalm 139:21, 22) It was because they intensely hated Jehovah that David looked on them with abhorrence. Apostates are included among those who show their hatred of Jehovah by revolting against him. Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah. Some apostates profess to know and serve God, but they reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah’s organization and actively try to hinder its work. When they deliberately choose such badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of their makeup, then a Christian must hate (in the Biblical sense of the word) those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness. True Christians share Jehovah’s feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas. On the contrary, they “feel a loathing” toward those who have made themselves God’s enemies, but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance.—Job 13:16; Romans 12:19; 2 John 9, 10.
